Wednesday, September 9, 2009

Seriously, why on earth is Groh still the coach? No, seriously.


As red4z noted in yesterday’s post, it is too easy to simply write a “Fire Groh” post. But given that William & Mary sealed Al Groh’s fate, let’s get into the real question of the hour: why is he coaching against TCU? To me, it’s sort of the opposite of what Harry told Sally: when you figure out you don’t want to spend your Saturdays with someone, you want to stop spending your Saturdays with that person as soon as possible.

Groh coaching Saturday creates a lose-lose situation for both Groh and Virginia. If TCU and Southern Miss beat Virginia, it’s expected and the long march to December continues, tension mounting with each loss for when the hammer will drop.

If Virginia somehow manages to beat TCU or Southern Miss, it raises the possibility of Groh doing just enough to keep his job but not enough to actually get the program out of neutral, and puts off the inevitable for another year or two. The entire season becomes defined by the Groh Death Watch, which is a horrible way for the year to play out and does the school no public relations favors.

If, say, Ron Prince (the uninspiring but obvious choice) gets a battlefield promotion, and has the exact same best-case-scenario season that Groh would have had, it is a cause for excitement. Littlepage gets the chance to evaluate a candidate on the job, things start getting pointed towards the future a little earlier. If team stinks, it is not like anyone would have expected that results would have been far better WITH Groh, so there really is very little opportunity cost.

To be clear, losing to William & Mary IS a firing offense. Don’t give me any them-be-the-breaks, that’s-how-the-ball-bounces, they’re-a-I-AA-playoff-team bull. Yes, losing to I-AA teams happens. To badly-coached teams.


Virginia has much more talent in both quality and quantity than William & Mary. This is not an argument. There is a massive advantage in the number of scholarships a I-A team has versus a I-AA team, and it is incredibly unlikely that any player on William & Mary would have gone there if Virginia had offered an opportunity.

Now, I would not doubt that a half-dozen players on William & Mary are better than many players on Virginia’s roster, maybe even a dozen players are better. But even if those players are perfectly distributed in impact positions (quarterback, receiver, offensive and defensive backfield, left tackle, right end, etc.), Virginia’s overall superiority in talent should have persevered in the end. With relative ease.

Or, think about it this way: if Virginia and W&M are remotely equal in talent, that means that Groh is either INCREDIBLY deficient at recruiting and/or developing talent, OR that William & Mary’s coaching staff is VASTLY superior tactically than Groh. Either way, it’s damning.

The “Virginia has turned things around before” chorus is not a good counterpoint. Any program that has this much experience at “turning things around” from terrible starts has some serious problems. The argument of “We Play Better with Our Backs Against the Wall” implies that a team gets its back to the wall often enough to have a well-established track record there---and I’m looking at you, Washington Capitals. Good teams don’t do that. Good teams win enough not to constantly put themselves in the position of needing to win.

Also, it’s not like Virginia isn’t bound to play better after playing so poorly. Virginia played terribly on Saturday, and it will play better at some point in the near future simply because the Cavaliers are not truly THAT bad, just as they weren’t as bad as they looked against Wyoming and Directional Michigan and USC and even Richmond and all the other craptastic early season performances in years past. Regression towards the mean dictates that teams tend towards their true ability in the long run, and by starting out poorly year after year, Virginia really has nowhere to regress but up.

So, Virginia WILL play better, and it will have little to do with Groh; it’ll play better because it IS a better team than it looked like. (Additionally, some amount of randomness went into that turd of a performance last Saturday, though not enough to compensate for the loss). This natural tendency to “improve” only increases the danger of Groh winning six or seven games and creating a narrative that gives Littlepage cover to keep Groh.

This is not a Steinbrennerian (Snyderian?) spur-of-the-moment decision. Groh’s been coach FOR EIGHT YEARS. Freshmen and sophomores in high school don’t remember George Welsh coaching Virginia. If those freshmen and sophomores happen to run a sub-4.5 40-yard-dash, they can use a reason to pay attention.

It’s not hasty to fire Groh now, even if it’s in midseason. It’s set against a backdrop of questionable and alienating moves since almost day one, ranging from the not-go-for-two decision against Wisconsin (which was perhaps the first step on the slippery slope to where we’re at) to the bizarre scheduling choices, to the losses to the teams scheduled in the bizarre scheduling choices, to the problematic drain of talent both of coaches and player off-field issues. Any semblance of a relationship with the fans is gone, setting up a perverse incentive to root against a sixth win (were there to be a miracle and Virginia to reach that point) to ensure that Littlepage can’t rehire him without facing a riot.

Groh has defenders, not supporters, at this point.

The two most similar decisions that leap to my mind (though others I’m sure are out there), are Frank Broyles firing Jack Crowe after Arkansas lost to the Citadel in an opener in the early 1990s and Clemson canning Tommy Bowden after a month last year. The Citadel was similarly I-AA, and while expectations are presumably higher at both programs (they’ve both won national titles, after all), Bowden had a similar path of success (even slightly superior) to Groh, mixed with a reputation for arrogance and aloofness from the fanbase.

Crowe’s firing didn’t end up working out so well for Arkansas---they were stuck for awhile in the mud, but again, it’s not like anyone was lamenting the Jack Crowe era afterwards. Bowden’s firing so far has seemed to work out for Clemson---the Tigers found value in a lost season, removing the interim tag from Dabo Swinney’s job description last December after the Tigers turned things around.

More than anything, firing Groh now gives hope, perhaps fleeting, of better Saturdays to come, even this year. If nothing else, it gives certainty to a situation that has needed it for three years, and avoids the biggest problem of all: Groh winning more games.
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Tuesday, September 8, 2009

From the Captain Obvious Department

As noted in our opening post, one of the things we're looking for here at the 7even Win Society is intelligent discussion of UVA sports. Judging from the Fourth Estate's coverage of Saturday's debacle against William & Mary, we're still looking.  A sampling (and these are the highlights people): 
I know its easy to Monday Morning Quarterback the media (although it shouldn't be this easy).  Its also too easy to simply write a "Fire Groh" Post.  I won't rant too much about a game many of us are trying to simply eject from our consciousness as quickly as possible.  And really, there's not much to analyze - a team that had a lot more talent was outplayed in pretty much every aspect of the game by a team from a lower division - so maybe I'm being too hard on the media.  But ...

  • As the old football saying goes, if you have two quarterbacks, you really have none. If you have three quarterbacks, well, you have a coach with ADD.  Don't tell me it was Gregg Brandon's idea to rotate three different kids at QB in his first game as OC.  And if it was, someone (i.e. the head coach) should have stopped him from doing it. 
  • Vic Hall’s opening drive 34-yard touchdown scamper was breathtaking, but he appears to be a one-trick pony. Or at the very least the coaches think he is. He threw all of five passes at QB. If you don’t trust him to throw, Hall is the NFL version of a Wildcat QB. A nice change of pace, but not a QB. Stop pretending he is.
  • But Hall wasn’t doing that badly, which made the switch to Sewell after all of three drives such a head-scratcher. The football gods immediately punished UVA for the change with a fumbled snap on Sewell’s first play. After that, it was vintage Sewell – a strike between coverage to Chris Byrd. Two plays later, he sailed a throw three feet over Byrd’s head to the other team. Get used to it folks. Sewell is the Hoos best chance at QB. But he is what he is – flashes of brilliance followed closely by complete exasperation.
  • We’ll just pretend the desperation switch to Marc Verica in the fourth quarter didn’t happen, shall we? And hope it doesn’t happen again. I’m sure he’s a nice guy, but Verica should have joined the ranks Virginia QBs that never got in a game. The fact that he plays (and has even started games) is horrifying for a program that hopes to compete for conference titles.
  • Mikell Simpson carried the ball five times for 32 yards, and caught six passes for 28 yards. I know a lot of those running yards were on one play late in the first half, but Simpson’s probably their best offensive player. Let’s get him the ball, not throw to receivers you or I couldn't pick out of a lineup.
  • Is it possible – just possible – that they’re asking Hall to do too much? Not only does Hall have to learn a new offense, learn a new position, and split out wide at receiver every once in a while, but he also needs to return punts? Why exactly? Its hard to get mad at the kid when he’s asked to do that much, and then fumbles a punt. But very easy to get mad at the coaching staff that asks him to do it.
  • The defense wasn’t as bad as the score indicated. It wasn’t good, mind you, against a 1-AA opponent, but not that bad. Redshirt freshman Steve Greer (10 tackles) used to be Jon Copper’s understudy; looks more like a clone to me. And a year after returning from academic suspension, Chris Cook looks like the best corner on the roster (yes, I’m looking at you Ras-I Dowling).
  • Finally, another old football saying (one I happen to believe in) is that players take on the personality of their head coach.  Saturday's performance did not reflect well on the head coach.  The program's history under Groh says they will rebound, of course, but we're not sure that matters.  We suspect there will be ruminations all week about Groh's job status on one side, and attempts to rally the troops on the other.  Far from the discussion we thought we'd be having this week, huh?  Doesn't that tell you everything you need to know?
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Monday, September 7, 2009

Friday, September 4, 2009

Kicking off another season of UVA Football

Normally in this space at this time, I'd be filling you in on the enemy for the week, but I don't think anyone really cares what UVA's academic little brother (or as cjhoo noted to me, the the future Fighting Asparagus) is going to bring to the table this week (no pun intended). 

But I did want to add a quick word about a guy who would have been looking forward to this game just as much as anyone, and that's the recently departed Mike Colley, former Assistant Director for Media Relations at the University and a lifelong Cavalier fan who died earlier this summer from a sudden heart attack.


I knew Mike back when I was just a young journalist, and he was always good to me even though he was often annoyed with me (I know because he'd tell me so).  I won't pretend Mike & I were fast friends, so I'll leave more appropriate tributes to those who knew him better than I -- here and here.  But for those of us who knew him, we know he'll be watching wherever he is (and happy he doesn't have to round up anyone for quotes afterwards).  Go Hoos!  Continue reading this post...

Thursday, September 3, 2009

Fearless Predictions

Its the time of year when everyone goes through the schedule and tries to figure out just how well Virginia is going to do this season.  To me, this season seems harder than most, but as cjhoo notes, its felt this way to him for the last ten years. 

ESPN's got Virginia finishing behind Duke.  Ouch.  The Sporting News says 4-8.  The Washington Post (I didn't know they covered UVa sports) have them finishing with, at most, three ACC wins.

We're slightly more optimistic here at the Seven Win Society (some more than others).  Our season predictions are after the jump.  Please feel free to chime in with your thoughts as well.


red4z: Yet another make-or-break season for a major sport coach. Haven’t we seen this movie before? It feels a little bit like Tugg Speedman in Scorcher 6.

The Hoos open against FCS powerhouse William & Mary. It goes better than last year’s foray into the CAA. 27-7 Hoos. Vic Hall looks like the answer.

Week 2 against TCU is everyone’s favorite upset special. I don’t see it. Vic Hall remembers he’s 5-foot-9. Jameel Sewell comes in for the second half and makes it interesting, but the Cavs can’t keep up with the Horned Frogs. 27-24 TCU.

Going into week 3, a prominent media member compares Sewell, who is now the starter, to Aaron Brooks. Seven Win Society reminds said media member that, for all his faults, Aaron Brooks was much better than Jameel Sewell. Here’s your upset special. S. Miss. 21, UVA 17.

The Hoos lose the next one on the road too to UNC, and fall to 1-3. Everyone is screaming for Groh’s head. True to form, Groh says that he will not disclose who will start at QB in Week 5. This does keep the opponents guessing, but it also leaves his own team wondering who their leader is. Maybe the coach should think of that next time.

The Hoos win game 5 behind a QB tandem of Hall and Sewell. Its Indiana, and its not basketball. The same thing happens in Week 8 against Duke (again, not basketball). But those wins are sandwiched around a blowout loss to the Turtles, and vengeance for GT, who return the favor for last year’s home loss by beating the Hoos in C’ville for the first time since 1990 (we all remember that one, don’t we?).

But Groh always keeps it interesting. He does it again with an upset win at Miami. The Hoos follow it up by taking care of business at home against BC. Now, all of a sudden, they’re 5-5, and only need to split one of their last two to be eligible for a bowl (even if it’s DC‘s EagleBank Bowl against Navy).

They can’t do it. CJ Spiller runs wild in Death Valley, and the Hokies beat Groh for the eighth time in nine years. Its Groh’s last game on the UVA sideline.

Cjhoo: As we embark upon the 2009 version of the college football season, the obligatory fearless (more accurately baseless) predictions are in order. This year’s Virginia squad proves a tad reminiscent of the ‘07 Cavs – sure, no preseason standout like Chris Long, but a stronger quarterback situation and proven players in several key positions. Actually, perhaps the ’09 Hoos have very little in common with the squad from two seasons ago, but instead the idea is that they can put together a season similar to that of the 2007 campaign - surprise a few teams, catch a handful of good breaks, exceed expectations, and tally a respectable season. Alright, enough of what equates to “jazz hands” on paper (pure cheese) and on with the flip-of-the-coin predictions.

Early season: After what should be an easy, though mildly unimpressive win against the fighting asparagus (recently proposed mascot) of W&M, Virginia should look to at least split the TCU/Southern Miss games. Winning both leads to early expectations and sets up well for fans to have their hearts stomped on once again.

Almost every year, Virginia seems to pull off an upset of some sort, and the TCU game will be the one for 2009. It’s TCU’s first game, and could be a bit of trap game for the Horned Frogs. They enter the season with considerable expectations, and Virginia welcomes them to Charlottesville with a tune-up game under its belt and nothing to lose.

While beating the Golden Eagles in Hattiesburg is certainly possible; this could be the TCU game in reverse. There is no doubt Southern Miss will be excited to host an ACC school, and in typical Wahoo fashion, the excitement stemming from the TCU upset will quickly be tempered with a hard-fought loss on the road, leaving the Hoos 2-1 headed into ACC play.

Swing Games: While wins at UNC and Clemson look unlikely (though a split would be huge), Virginia has a chance to win any and all of four games @ Maryland, v. Ga. Tech, @ Miami, and v. Boston College. Going .500 against these four serves as a reasonable goal, and anything above that sets things up for a relatively exciting season.

When the Hoos head to College Park they should collect their first road win of the year at Maryland. The spread offense starts to really take shape and helps the Cavs notch a key conference win. Virginia will likely travel down to Florida as an underdog and they should come away with a mild upset and a solid conference road win against a young but talented Miami team.

Things might not fare as well at home. Looking to avenge a surprise loss to the Hoos last year in Atlanta, the Yellow Jackets, one of the contenders for the ACC crown, take care of business on the road.

And just as Virginia typically pulls off a nice upset game each season, the Hoos tend to also post a wildly disappointing loss (still trying to wash the taste of last year’s Duke-job out of my mouth). With a decent season in the works and a little confidence after the Miami win on the road, the Cavs come home and completely fall flat against Boston College. A crushing defeat against a team Virginia should beat.

Va Tech: The season unfolds like a script from a Lifetime Original Series, and thus, it all comes down to this game. The Groh rumors are swirling, and the Hoos could use one more marquee win to secure a bowl birth in a rivalry game that has been quite lopsided during Groh’s tenure. The Hoos finally end the streak, finish 7-5, head to a marginal bowl, and Groh gets an ambiguous vote of confidence – a year extension, which still leaves him with only 3 years left on his contract.

ACC COY: Let’s start with the season narrative; easy enough to pick, given I’m the optimistic sort:

Week One: Narrower-than-should-be win against the Tribe, everybody gets excited about whichever quarterback comes in second;

Week Two: New starting quarterback! Blowout loss to TCU, which is complicated by one of the other two quarterbacks playing better than the original No. 2 in garbage time, Groh won’t say who starts, just that he has a good idea who it’ll be;

Week Three: New starting quarterback! Three-point loss at Southern Miss, and renewed talk of Groh resigning. Groh will instead talk about building a team that’s hard to beat;

Sidebar: WHY is VIRGINIA playing AT SOUTHERN MISS exactly? Talk about no upside. If UVA is going to play nonconference games against teams with some pedigree, I can buy it; I can get into Texas Christian, even if they’ll probably kick our ass. I can’t get into Wyoming. Or ECU. Or Southern Miss. Or any of these teams that do nothing for us when we win that beating, say, Troy or Buffalo wouldn’t do (presuming Virginia COULD beat Troy or Buffalo). Indiana is at least a Big 10 team. I mean, seriously. This is the height of poor planning, and I don’t care what the excuses are. There are, what, almost 100 Division I-A schools that are not members of the ACC? Virginia couldn’t find ANY that were either easy enough to beat or name enough to get on national TV? Playing AT Southern Miss. Ugh.

Week Four: Bye Week. Groh says it was a good time for everybody to come together, makes some reference to a bye week that went well in the League;

Week Five: New starting quarterback! (Well, really, just whoever started the opener or second game). Upset of North Carolina, because even if it is in Chapel Hill, Virginia owns UNC when it’s not supposed to;

Weeks Six/Seven/Eight: Wins over Indiana and Maryland (of course come-from-behind) have Virginia somehow in first place in the division midway through the year. Beating Georgia Tech (who, again, we own when we’re not supposed to) has people talking extension for Groh;

Week Nine: Groh for ACC Coach of the Year! Barely squeaking by Duke reminds people how this season is going to end. People are talking Gator or Peach Bowl at 6-2, but it’s really time to start looking at hotels up the road in Charlotte;

Weeks 10-12: Virginia loses at Miami, bad; beats Boston College, people again start talking about how if nine different unlikely combinations of things happen that Virginia Could Still Win The Division, then an ugly loss at Clemson shuts that up, and people start thinking DC, not Charlotte;

Week 13: Hokies deliver their Thanksgiving beatdown, take over Scott Stadium, and remind us what a football program looks like;

Week 14: UVa creeps into the EagleBank Bowl, fans talk themselves into a Tuesday afternoon game in DC, Littlepage lets the story dangle for a week or two but decides to keep Groh but doesn’t bother to sign on the option, and the cycle begins anew.

Week 20 (my math might be off): A 14-10 win over Army in DC gives Groh an “eight-win” season to crow about.

The sad thing is, I think most people would look at this as a dream season. I know because I am one of those people.


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Wednesday, September 2, 2009

Getting off the Ground...

Hope everyone has enjoyed the first week-plus of the Seven Win Society.  A number of you have asked how you can help, get involved, etc.  The best thing you can do for the site right now is spread the word, and comment when you agree (or don't agree) with something we've written.  We like discussion.  For example, we'd be interested to hear what everyone else thinks about Groh's status (yesterday's post), and how everyone else thinks the football team will do this season (tomorrow's post).   

If you keep reading, we'll keep writing.  We wouldn't have done this if there wasn't a niche for this type of blog for UVA Sports, and if we weren't committed to making it work.  If you have any suggestions, thoughts, or just think of something you want written about, post a comment somewhere, or send us an e-mail at sevenwinsociety@gmail.com.

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Tuesday, September 1, 2009

Grohing Pains

Terry Holland once said that the best measure of a coach’s impact is the difference between what was and what is. He was talking, of course, of George Welsh, whose impact was easy enough to see: building a program from the rubble, a gleaming 60,000-seat stadium, near-perennial bowl trips and near-occasional contention for the ACC title.

Given how many people want Welsh’s successor fired, it’s time to ask the question of what, exactly, is Al Groh?

Is he a collection of alternating 5- and 9-win seasons? A series of great assistants and brain drain, rinse and repeat? Orange t-shirts and a traditional marching band? Christmastime in Charlotte or Boise in the good years? An endless supply of third down backs? A yearly beatdown by Tech?

More importantly, and this is the question not asked enough, is he the best we can do?
Probably, surprisingly, damningly, yes.

Look at the past five major coaching searches at Virginia and see how close it came to landing a big name or the kind of blue chip top assistant that is a surefire bet to succeed?

The searches replacing Holland, Jeff Jones, George Welsh, Pete Gillen and Dave Leitao had tons of fun rumors of a Tubby Smith or a pre-Georgia Mark Richt, some near-misses such as Rick Barnes, but really, the biggest “name” hires were Gillen and Groh; Gillen was coming off a pretty terrible season (he had lost a bunch of starters, I know, I know) and Groh’s 2000 Jets had collapsed after a 9-3 start to miss the playoffs, and nobody in New York seemed too upset he was gone (the Jets are cursed, I know, I know). But would you have imagined that Jerry Sandusky would have done much better over the past eight years? If Groh had gotten fired last winter, who would be coaching the Cavaliers right now?

Which makes UVa’s vague tolerance/hate relationship with Groh all the more depressing; it’s like a married couple that’s been together so long divorce seems like too much of an effort. The well’s been poisoned too much for any real reconciliation; it’s just a stalemate between Groh getting annoyed enough to quit or two losing seasons in a row providing Littlepage with enough cover to make what should be a bold decision look easy.

Groh’s not particularly likable, and he and Craig Littlepage have seemed somewhat callous in their treatment of a lot of things about Virginia football fans have liked (walking back to the tailgates at halftime, not going to games wearing gym clothes, having a pep band that served as a nice outlet for the “indoor kids,” having strained relationships with black quarterbacks over their “decision making,”) and running them into the ground. Creeping Big State U-ism indeed, only without the trips to the Peach Bowl.

And he loses games. Nonconference games. To teams Virginia conceivably should either not be playing or at the very least beating. Virginia fans can tolerate 3-5, 4-4, 5-3 ACC records, with upsets of Maryland and North Carolina paired with random chokejobs against NC State and at Georgia Tech to make the ride to the anonymous middle a little more of a roller coaster; that’s in our DNA at this point. But Western Michigan? East Carolina? Connecticut? Wyoming? All were good enough teams, don’t get me wrong, but remember when we used to lose to the likes of Auburn or even BYU? These were games nobody wanted to see, and certainly games nobody wanted to see Virginia lose. Remember when Virginia would split series with Auburn or BYU instead of UConn or Wyoming? Give me past national champions or I-AA teams; we can’t beat mediocre I-A teams with any consistency, so let’s get some starpower.

And there’s the off-the-field situations, and the seeming lack of a predictable standard applied to players’ transgressions; some are let go, some are welcomed back. This happened under Welsh too, of course, but rarely with such a lack of finesse as Groh and Littlepage displayed with the disposal of Peter Lalich.

Working under the assumption that a losing season spells the end of Groh’s tenure, what would keep him around? Six wins? Maybe, maybe not. Seven? Possibly, even probably---Virginia’s not really in a position to fire winning coaches. Eight? Without a doubt.

And thus the cycle would begin anew. What if Groh goes 5-7 in 2010? Another year, another shot at 7-5 redemption?

Perhaps the best thing Littlepage has done as AD was his firing of Leitao a year earlier than anyone thought, not giving him a chance at a NCAA first-round exit (in the best-case scenario) which would make him bulletproof for another year and stagnated UVa’s basketball program.

The awkward passivity of the annual December decision over whether to exercise one-year options on Groh’s contract years in advance creates no real answers or direction for the program. Even after that flukey ACC Coach of the Year nine-win year in 2007, Groh still only got a one-year bump, showing he has almost no leverage in the situation. It’s like Walter Aston’s 23 one-year contracts with the Dodgers, only the opposite. There’s no implicit loyalty here, other than Groh’s to the school. (This would be the rare turn of events which generated sympathy for Groh, except he really doesn’t have many other foreseeable options).

If a guy’s not your guy, he’s not your guy, and if that doesn’t have consequences immediately, it’s going to have them in the long run. Leitao wasn’t the guy. Groh likely isn’t either, and that’s as much a criticism of Littlepage than Groh that he’s still around with a relationship with the school and the fanbase that is in such disrepair.

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